November 11, 2009
By John Stossel
As an American, I am embarrassed that the U.S. House of Representatives has 220 members who actually believe the government can successfully centrally plan the medical and insurance industries.
I’m embarrassed that my representatives think that government can subsidize the consumption of medical care without increasing the budget deficit or interfering with free choice.
It’s a triumph of mindless wishful thinking over logic and experience.
The 1,990-page bill is breathtaking in its bone-headed audacity. The notion that a small group of politicians can know enough to design something so complex and so personal is astounding. That they were advised by “experts” means nothing since no one is expert enough to do that. There are too many tradeoffs faced by unique individuals with infinitely varying needs.
Government cannot do simple things efficiently. The bureaucrats struggle to count votes correctly. They give subsidized loans to “homeowners” who turn out to be 4-year-olds. Yet congressmen want government to manage our medicine and insurance.
Competition is a “discovery procedure,” Nobel-prize-winning economist F. A. Hayek taught. Through the competitive market process, we producers and consumers constantly learn things that force us to adjust our behavior if we are to succeed. Central planners fail for two reasons:
First, knowledge about supply, demand, individual preferences and resource availability is scattered — much of it never articulated — throughout society. It is not concentrated in a database where a group of planners can access it.
Second, this “data” is dynamic: It changes without notice.
No matter how honorable the central planners’ intentions, they will fail because they cannot know the needs and wishes of 300 million different people. And if they somehow did know their needs, they wouldn’t know them tomorrow.
Proponents of so-called reform — it’s not really reform unless it makes things better — have shamefully avoided criticism of their proposals. Often they just dismiss their opponents as greedy corporate apologists or paranoid right-wing loonies. That’s easier than answering questions like these:
1) How can the government subsidize the purchase of medical services without driving up prices? Econ 101 teaches — without controversy — that when demand goes up, if other things remain equal, price goes up. The politicians want to have their cake and eat it, too.
2) How can the government promise lower medical costs without restricting choices? Medicare already does that. Once the planners’ mandatory insurance pushes prices to new heights, they must put even tougher limits on what we may buy — or their budget will be even deeper in the red than it already is. As economist Thomas Sowell points out, government cannot really reduce costs. All it can do is disguise and shift costs (through taxation) and refuse to pay for some services (rationing).
3) How does government “create choice” by imposing uniformity on insurers? Uniformity limits choice. Under House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s bill and the Senate versions, government would dictate to all insurers what their “minimum” coverage policy must include. Truly basic high-deductible, low-cost catastrophic policies tailored to individual needs would be forbidden.
4) How does it “create choice” by making insurance companies compete against a privileged government-sponsored program? The so-called government option, let’s call it Fannie Med, would have implicit government backing and therefore little market discipline. The resulting environment of conformity and government power is not what I mean by choice and competition. Rep. Barney Frank is at least honest enough to say that the public option will bring us a government monopoly.
Advocates of government control want you to believe that the serious shortcomings of our medical and insurance system are failures of the free market. But that’s impossible because our market is not free. Each state operates a cozy medical and insurance cartel that restricts competition through licensing and keeps prices higher than they would be in a genuine free market. But the planners won’t talk about that. After all, if government is the problem in the first place, how can they justify a government takeover?
Many people are priced out of the medical and insurance markets for one reason: the politicians’ refusal to give up power. Allowing them to seize another 16 percent of the economy won’t solve our problems.
Freedom will.
Posted by Karel
Good Evening, Villagers…this blog thread has angles that aren’t often mentioned, John Stossel tends to see things from a different perspective than most people, which makes him thought provoking.
There are two shout outs at the end of the last thread…one from MaryPuma enroute to Tahoe and the other from Taylor who’s in South Carolina enroute to Florida…be sure to check out their comments! Good to hear from the ladies…travel safe and enjoy!!
Rest easy…tomorrow we’ll all tackle a new day!!!
Karel, this is a very revealing article on how politicians meddled with our lives. Stossel’s statement is noteworthy, “No matter how honorable the central planners’ intentions, they will fail because they cannot know the needs and wishes of 300 million different people….” This is so true, how they expect to make things better and how are they to know what is best for each and everyone of us. Speaker Pelosi said last night to her constituents that this is their Christmas gift to the American people.
If their intentions were fair and good, why were they in such a hurry. Why didn’t they put it online for the American people read about their ‘gift’ before wrapping it with their votes?
I sent this article about the ten most economically troubled states – included are CA, Pelosi’s home state, NV, Reid’s home state. It’s very telling.
Ten most troubled states in the U.S.
By Tami Luhby, CNNMoney.com senior writer
On 3:42 pm EST, Wednesday November 11, 2009
The same economic pressures that pushed California to the brink of insolvency are wreaking havoc on other states, a new report has found.
And how state officials deal with their fiscal problems could reverberate across the United States, according to the Pew Center on the States’ analysis released Wednesday.
The 10 most troubled states are: Arizona, California, Florida, Illinois, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Rhode Island and Wisconsin.
Other states — including Colorado, Georgia, Kentucky, New York and Hawaii — were not far behind.
The list is based on several factors, including the loss of state revenue, size of budget gaps, unemployment and foreclosure rates, poor money management practices, and state laws governing the passage of budgets.
Read full article:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Ten-most-troubled-states-in-cnnm-2889165804.html?x=0&.v=7
Here’s the roll call:
MJ (you’ve been MIA), Karel, Taylor, Mary, CTKey, Tanya, Teri and the village kids, Ann and Jackie, goandersen, Robin, Zoe and her mom, Bob and Lanz, Amy, still4hill, Helen, Toni-CO, Harriet, Maria, Arctic, madampresident, latina, anna, Rosa the footsoldier, Steve, Hillary, Chelsea, Bill and Ms. Dorothy, villagers here and everywhere.
God bless all the veterans, thank you for your service to our country.
Good night to all.
Normita, Thanks for the great roll call
I left a comment on the last thread , before i knew this one was up woops!
We are doing alot better, the kids are back to school, and ive been very busy cleaning, while the kids are at school since they were stuck at home the house needed a GOOD CLEANING LOL
I dont want this Christmas Gift Pealousy has for me!!
I love you all , and sweet dreams
Teri and The Village Kids
Teri, it’s wonderful to hear your voice and the footsteps of the village kids last night. I must have been watching the recordings of two days worth of Dancing with the Stars and missed your entry. Have a great day, and I love you too!
Nutrition: Chocolate Milk May Reduce Inflammation
By RONI CARYN RABIN
Move over, red wine. Make room for chocolate milk. A new study suggests that regular consumption of skim milk with flavonoid-rich cocoa may reduce inflammation, potentially slowing or preventing development of atherosclerosis. Researchers noted, however, that the effect was not as pronounced as that seen with red wine.
Scientists in Barcelona, Spain, recruited 47 volunteers ages 55 and older who were at risk for heart disease. Half were given 20-gram sachets of soluble cocoa powder to drink with skim milk twice a day, while the rest drank plain skim milk. After one month, the groups were switched.
Blood tests found that after participants drank chocolate milk twice a day for four weeks, they had significantly lower levels of several inflammatory biomarkers, though some markers of cellular inflammation remained unchanged.
Participants also had significantly higher levels of good HDL cholesterol after completing the chocolate milk regimen, according to the study, which appears in the November issue of The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition and is already online.
“Since atherosclerosis is a low-grade inflammatory disease of the arteries, regular cocoa intake seems to prevent or reduce” it, said Dr. Ramón Estruch of the University of Barcelona, the paper’s senior author, adding that more studies were needed.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/health/research/10nutr.html?em
My mom will be happy–she loves chocolate milk.
Hello villagers. Very dreary in CT. Going to be for a few days. Maybe chocolate milk will help.
Have a good day everyone.
You too, CT!
Good Morning, Villagers…clouds pass by with nary a drip and sunshine reigns with highs of about 62!
CT Key…there’s so much we don’t know about food…and every time they seem to hail certain benefits, ten years go by and they change their minds!! Moderation is the only way to go…don’t get too hooked on any one food item…though, chocolate could never come up with something so negative that I’d give it up!! I’m a dark chocolate lover from way back!!
Normita…I agree, the presumptuousness of central planners is astounding and that the very same people bringing us the swine flu vaccines can handle health care for over 300 million people…who’s kidding who?? Their track record speaks for itself…medicare, medicaid, etc….all headed for insolvency!! I hope we can survive this kind of idiocy!!
The thing that gets me is all the polls are showing that the majority of Americans don’t want this reform…they are choosing not to listen to the people…what happens when you turn your back on them?? This continues to astound me…it’s hard to believe!!
Good morning, villagers. Got a break from going to the city for a meeting. The key person I’ll be meeting with is sick so the meeting got cancelled.
Karel, I think the deliverers are using the swine flu vaccine as a test on their determination to give the people something whether we like it or not. Their intentions may be good, but why not let the health czars come to the microphone. And renaming the swine flu into something else is questionable, why can’t it be called the way it is. The lobbyists from the pig industry got through to them.
This health care reform will cut at least $400 million from medicare, and the AARP are supposed to be the trusted stewards of the seniors.
Will check back in.
Our chief is in the Philippines where she was greeted by thousands of flag waving children, bands playing. She went to visit a high school that was devastated by the typhoon and saw for herself the damage. She held a Book Fair distributing books to the teachers and students, books delivered by USAID. Accdg to the Foreign Minister, she’s the most loved Secretary of State, and admired by so many fans and fanatics. I guess that includes me! LOL
KEY and Karel I’m a dark chocolate lover too when I get a chocolate urge a few times a year. Interesting article you posted KEY. I think all foods in moderation are good for having healthy bodies and minds.
Water is a key too. I try to remember to drink at least 8 glasses a day.
Good article on the thread. Government is not the only agency with no one home to answer the phone though. One of my pet peeves is calling for an answer to my issue and getting only a menu and/or an automatic robot menu to help. Grrrrrr.
Had an awful experience today with a credit card company talking to customer service “managers” who were rude and argumentative. Where did all the nice people go too????
Where is our MJ?
Yes, KEY, another white steel gray sky day here in CT. Tomorrow is rain. They excavated my back yard today and took up all the grass and top soil and left a huge dirt mound behind my clothes line pole. I will have mud and mess until the ground freezes until Spring. Gone is my beautiful window view from my bedroom window of trees, flowers, cedars, junipers, and birds. Yuck is what I will see now.
Okay enough complaining. I am grateful I am alive, healthy, walking straight and without pain and have friends and family that love me.
Tanya, you will need to post a beautiful poster near your window. I hate to see any plant or tree destroyed.
When my sister is confronted by a “rude” person, she atops them and says “I’m sorry, but was I being rude to you? Because you definitely being rude to me?” Most times it will stop them to rethink their motives and approach.
We are in Brunswick GA tonight. Heading to Ocala tomorrow. We still haven’t seen the sun.
May be back later this evening.
Hello, Taylor, thanks for checking in. Your sister’s approach is a good one to make the other person stop and think.
Tanya, what poor timing to have your backyard excavated. But like you said, that’s just a minor distraction – nothing tops good health.
Tanya, I gave MJ a shout. She’s been out for a few days now.
Just found this article from The Washington Post:
Feeling the weight of war
From Fort Hood to Afghanistan, trying times for the commander in chief
By Joel Achenbach
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, November 12, 2009
War and tragedy are putting President Obama through the most wrenching period of his young administration. Visibly thinner, admittedly skipping meals, he is learning every day the challenges of a wartime presidency. Health-care reform, climate-change legislation, the broken economy — all are cerebral exercises compared with the grim responsibility of being the commander in chief.
READ FULL ARTICLE:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/11/AR2009111127507.html?wpisrc=newsletter
Even with all the perks that job must be too draining, especially having to deal with his policies, and the Afghan war, bad economy, unemployment, shooting in Ft. Hood, campaigning endlessly, and many other issues.
CNN announced replacement for Lou Dobbs:
John King to take over Dobbs’s slot at CNN
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, November 12, 2009; 10:51 AM
CNN announced Thursday that John King, the Sunday morning host best known for his magic wall, is taking over the 7 p.m. slot left vacant by the abrupt resignation of Lou Dobbs.
READ FULL ARTICLE:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/12/AR2009111208290.html?wpisrc=newsletter
Best wishes to Lou. John King fits the mold of CNN and will keep management happy to have that kind of mold. Peaceful and no controversy with the outside world.
I like dark chocolate too!! I think I need a piece, but I need to give my body a rest from these things!!
Tanya, I am hoping that the landlords put up some trees instead of a wasteland. It looks like they have something in mind, but it will look bad along the way.
I recd the following remarks of our chief in one of the schools devastated by the typhoon in the Philippines:
Press Releases: Briefing on Relief Efforts and Touring of Book Fair
Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:26:09 -0600
Briefing on Relief Efforts and Touring of Book Fair
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Secretary of State
Malanday High School, Marikina Flood Relief Site
Manila, Philippines
November 12, 2009
SECRETARY CLINTON: We are very proud to have so many Filipino Americans. And I’m very proud that our militaries work together, the American military and the military of the Philippines, saving lives and rescuing people, and I am very pleased that we could donate so many supplies.
Today, I am pleased to announce that there will be more than $5 million in new relief funds for the Philippines. (Applause.) This new support will help rebuild schools like this one, construct new classrooms, and provide 300,000 books and desks for 15,000 students. It will also help to repair damaged water and sanitation systems to prevent the spread of disease, and it will help to refurbish clinics to provide medical supplies and assistance.
So it is a great pleasure to be here at your school and to see all of you back in school. I know that if I had come here a week or two ago, it would not have looked like this. And so I thank everyone who worked hard to put this school back in such good shape. I also want to encourage all of the students to take advantage of your education, to study hard, to learn as much as you can learn so that you can help contribute to the future of your country.
So I learned a phrase as I was coming through, and what is that phrase? He’s trying to teach me this phrase.
PARTICIPANT: Mabuhay.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Mabuhay. (Applause.) And now we have officially opened the book fair so all of the teachers can start to get new books for their classrooms and for their students. I thank you for letting me come to your school. I congratulate you on recovering from the flood. And I promise you that the United States of America will always be a friend to the people of the Philippines. (Applause.) God bless you all. Thank you very much. (Applause.)
PRN: 2009/T15-12
I heard an interesting twist on health care last night. Due to costs, a small business dropped offering health care to their employees but did help their employees find independent policies. He said for the younger employees, their new policies were actually cheaper than with the group plan. I did not hear how older employees were impacted. Or those with conditons.
Have a great Friday villagers. I will be blessed to see two dear friends tomorrow.
Taylor, this is a sign of a very creative business owner who found ways to help his employees by seeking cheaper independent policies.
Breaking News:
White House counsel Craig to end embattled tenure
By Anne E. Kornblut and Ellen Nakashima
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, November 12, 2009; 11:41 PM
White House Counsel Gregory B. Craig is expected to announce his departure Friday, people familiar with the situation said, ending an embattled tenure in which he struggled to lead the closure of the Guantanamo Bay detention facility.
Craig will be replaced by Bob Bauer, a prominent Democratic lawyer who is Obama’s personal attorney.
The shakeup has been long-awaited, coming after months of dissatisfaction over Craig’s management of Guantanamo policy. It represents the most high-level White House departure to date — as well as the most concrete expression of how badly the administration’s detainee policy has gone off-course.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/12/AR2009111211348.html
I can still the teles ringing about how Guantanamo will be closed as a priority. Finding out how hard the job really is – putting too much on a plate at one time.
I watched the SOS forum at a university in the Philippines. Her knowledge and understanding of the issues are deep. I thanked her through her dipnote for taking the time.
It’s a quiet day in the village. Here’s the shout for the night:
CT, MJ, Taylor, Mary, Karel, Tanya, Steve, Teri and the village kids, Ann and Jackie, Robin, Zoe and her mom, Maria, Amy, Bob and Lanz, goandersen, Hillary, Chelsea, Bill and Ms. Dorothy, villagers here and everywhere.
Good night.
Good morning, peeps!
Returning the “shout out” to all of you. Not sure when I’ll be back because I have quite a bit to do, and I’m sure you all know how distracting the blog(s) can be!
But I did read the threads and enjoyed everyone’s comments.
Bye for now.
Great to see you MJ!! We’ll be here when you can make it back! Stay focused on what you need to do now.
MJ……….. So good to see you back we need your funny bone LOL so please take care of your stuff and get back here we will miss you so much but we will be here holding down the fort for you!
Take care my friend
Teri and The Village kids
Good morning all! Happy Friday!
Going to see my daughter this afternoon with a delivery of chicken soup (literally.) She is coming down with something and I am off with soup, and other things. They have already sent a bunch of kids home who have the H1N1.
BBL.
Good Morning, Villagers…rays of sunshine and a cloud or two with highs about 60!
CtKey…sorry to hear your daughter isn’t feeling well, hopefully all she needs is some of mom’s chicken soup…take care!
MJ…glad you shouted back…hope whatever’s keeping you busy is taken care of soon and you’re back in full swing before long!!
I am appalled to hear that our government is going to bring the 9/11 Gitmo terrorists to New York City for trial…this infuriates me to no end…for so many, many reasons!!!
Yes, TGIF…
Maybe we should drop these people in the middle of NYC and see what happens.
Good morning, villagers, from the sunny side of the village. Karel described it best!
Another week has passed with no decision whether to send more troops to Afghanistan. Meanwhile, a suicide bomber attacked a convoy near Kabul, wounding at least 24 people. I agree that the decision must be well-thought out to include allies, however, our brave men and women are exposed everyday that passes. Here’s an AP article this morning:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091113/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan
MJ, so glad to see you check in. Stay focused in what you’re doing, but don’t stay away too long. Our village needs your lights. Give Robin, Zoe and her mom, a big village hug and a loud shout.
Quote of the day in the village:
Curious things, habits. People themselves never knew they had them.
Agatha Christie
Interesting, gives a semblance of reality that we all have habits that we unconsciously are not aware of.
I posted an article about 8 fat fighting foods in the forum’s village discussion. Great tips.
Here’s some very interesting stats about health care debates helping the GOP in the Senate:
Polls suggest healthcare debate a boon to GOP candidates running for Senate
By Aaron Blake – 11/12/09 04:45 PM ET
The healthcare battle appears to be helping Republicans running for the Senate.
Two Quinnipiac polls released Thursday show the leading GOP candidates in Connecticut and Ohio growing their leads.
Former Rep. Rob Simmons (R-Conn.) leads Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), 49-38, and former Rep. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) has opened his first leads over two potential Democratic opponents.
Here’s the rest of the article:
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/67589-polls-suggest-healthcare-debate-a-boon-to-gop-senate-candidates
Lots of things could happen between now and 2010 election season.
Good evening all! A quiet Friday. It looks like my daughter has a bad cold. No fever, just stuffy. She has supplies to get her through the weekend. Watching this one as there are a ton of sick kids on the floor.